Vajrayana
Namaste
finished some of the basic free intro courses .
(Although my practice has been mostly habitual tendencies and foolish decisions )
At 66 years old the remaining time and energy seems precious.
My generation embraced (what I call hippie dharma) the psychedelic and "go east trend " Ram Dass and all the variety of material that got imported or discovered then until now both a great gift and also with some distortion (or baggage) but I'm absolutely grateful .
When I (tried) to get more committed in late 80's
And 90's vajrayana seemed to be most available.
Took empowerments and sadhanas ,and barely consciously ,naively samaya vows .
Then the satsang/ papaji/ ramana/ advaita wave took place (in my experience lol) friends went to his satsang and had profound experiences. Which although I couldn't go turned me back toward "hindu" study and satsangs in Seattle then.
Rereading muktananda stuff that mentions alot about kashmir shavism, kundalini etc the mark dyzekowski,laksmanjoo etc and texts of KS .brought me here.
My question is does anyone else have vajrayana experience and or samaya vows here? I see how they are probably very similar, dieties, mantras, even views , yet (modern?) texts have the rhetoric of "shiva is a worldly god" blah blah , (I think this is just secularism but .....)
Anyone else ever deal with that? Sorry for the long comment.


Hi, yes I am also initiated into Vajrayana Dzogchen tradition and the intersection is indeed quite interesting.
I do think there is some difference between darshanas of Vajrayana and Shaivism. (Emptiness vs Shiva as ultimate principle for example). But yeah the statements saying Shiva is worldly etc are clearly polemics and can be safely ignored.